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The Planning Deadline is over – What NOW?

Well, first, you are still able to send in any objections, write to the planning department if you have not already done so, and encourage your neigbours and friends to send in their objections. Objections will be taken into consideration untill the application goes before the planning committe.  

As this is written (5th September 2016) the planning portal is now accepting "public" comments please visit HERE AND MAKE YOURS

This planning application will not be passed under “Delegated Powers” and it will have to go before Trafford Council planning committee, and this is very likely to be November (it could be October) Due to the complex nature of this application its could even go into the New Year 2017.

Many of the Councillors who sit on the planning committee are from outside this local area, and until the actual planning committee papers/agenda are served upon them, most will not be aware about this application.

All of the Councillor details are in the public domain, and you are within your rights to contact them to let them know what your feelings are.

This is not like writing to the planning department, where your reasons to object should soley be on planning grounds, you can write to the planning committee members and express your own personal feelings.

So please do contact all of the planning committee members, and this includes the reserves (substitutes)  with your concerns and if you have a copy, send them your objection letter.
You can also invite members of the planning committee to where you live to show them why you are objecting and let them hear your concerns.

With time running out, now is the time to start sending in the letters, and spread the word. That We need to let the planning committee know what is going on, and the disruption that this is causing to local community cohesion.  

Councillor Mrs. Vivienne Ward   Chairman
Home address:  34 Delbooth Avenue
Manchester M41 8SD
Phone:  0161 912 3806
Bus. email:  viv.ward@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Daniel Edward Bunting Vice-Chairman
Home address:  233 Manor Avenue
Sale M33 4NP
Phone:  0161 905 2786
Bus. email:  dan.bunting@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Dr. Karen Barclay Committee Member
Home address:  10 Melrose Crescent
Hale WA15 8NN
Mobile:  07598 240329
Bus. phone:  0161 980 3462
Bus. email:  karen.barclay@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Nathan Evans Committee Member
Correspondence address: 
Trafford Town Hall
Talbot Road
Manchester M32 0TH
Email:  nathan.evans@trafford.gov.uk
Mobile:  07843368041

Councillor Tony Fishwick Committee Member
Home address:  189 Shaftesbury Avenue
Altrincham WA15 7AY
Phone:  0161 980 3223
Mobile:  07760 167580
Email:  tony.fishwick@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Philip Gratrix Committee Member
Home address:  23 Dunollie Road
Sale M33 2PD
Phone:  0161 905 2123
Mobile:  07760 167 223
Email:  philip.gratrix@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor David Hopps Committee Member
Home address:  Apartment 3, The Choirs
249 Marsland Road
Sale M33 7UJ
Mobile:  07814 650371
Bus. email:  david.hopps@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Ejaz Malik Committee Member
Home address:  211 Seymour Grove
Old Trafford
Manchester M16 9QS
Phone:  0161 881 0967
Mobile:  07752 667 445
Bus. phone:  0161 862 9786
Bus. email:  ejaz.malik@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Dolores O'Sullivan Committee Member
Correspondence address: 
Trafford Town Hall
Talbot Road
Manchester M32 0TH
Phone:  0161 747 2077
Email:  dolores.osullivan@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Bernard Sharp Committee Member
Home address:  The Coach House
67a Langham Road
WA14 3NT
Phone:  0161 928 6121
Bus. mobile:  07752 667460
Bus. email:  bernard.sharp@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor John Smith Committee Member
Home address:  Neuholme
Manchester Road
Partington M31 4FB
Phone:  0161 777 6871
Bus. phone:  0161 777 9438
Bus. email:  john.smith@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Laurence Walsh Committee Member
Correspondence address: 
Trafford Town Hall
Talbot Road
M32 0TH
Phone:  0161 912 5208
Email:  laurence.walsh@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor James Alexander Wright Committee Member
Correspondence address: 
Trafford Town Hall
Talbot Road
Email:  james.wright@trafford.gov.uk


Councillor Jane Brophy  (Reserve)
Home address:  22 Meadow Bank
WA15 6QP
Phone:  0161 962 6494
Bus. email:  jane.brophy@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Rob Chilton  (Reserve)
Home address:  2 Tulip Close
M33 5RX
Mobile:  07817 888 593
Bus. email:  robert.chilton@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Brian Rigby MBE  (Reserve)
Home address:  The Coach House
5 Sandiway Road
M33 5AJ
Bus. phone:  0161 912 2633
Bus. fax:  0161 969 7640
Bus. mobile:  07760 167484
Bus. email:  brian.rigby@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Brian Shaw  (Reserve)
Home address:  4 Cumberland Road
M41 9HS
Phone:  0161 748 6658
Bus. email:  brian.shaw@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Whit Stennett MBE  (Reserve)
Home address:  6 Basford Road
M16 0GE
Phone:  0161 860 6733
Bus. phone:  0161 912 3938
Bus. mobile:  07946 398168
Bus. email:  whit.stennett@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Michael Whetton  (Reserve)
Home address:  7 Mulberry Court
Gaskell Road
WA14 1TL
Mobile:  07752 667442
Bus. email:  michael.whetton@trafford.gov.uk

Councillor Denise Western  (Reserve)
Correspondence address:
Trafford Town Hall
Talbot Road
M32 0TH
Email:  denise.western@trafford.gov.uk
Mobile:  07794 080240

This item appears in the Jewish Telegraph August 12 2016

Eruv plan ‘damaging interfaith relations’

THE proposed Hale eruv will destroy strong interfaith links within the area, claims the son of the man who was renowned for building bridges between local Jewry and other communities. Mark Guterman, son of Henry Guterman, who received an MBE for his interfaith work, told the Jewish Telegraph of his “sadness” at the damage he believed is being caused to interfaith relations by the plans.
Behind the project are Rabbi Joel Portnoy and the South Manchester Eruv Committee.
An electronic petition was started by campaigners from South Trafford Against The Eruv, but was disabled by site administrators after “inappropriate content” was posted, despite reaching more than 400 signatures.
Mr Guterman, 55, said: “The arrogant ‘we don’t care as long as we get what we want’ attitude by unnamed funders of the project is ruining all the work my late father did for the community.
“These plans have caused hate-filled outbursts and are hijacking the proposals — which the eruv trust were warned about when they first announced plans in 2014 by myself and a colleague at meetings both publicly and privately.
“I’m not against the concept of an eruv, but I am against the trouble and divisiveness it is causing in this area.” The Hale-born property developer asked: “Why should we impose, and be seen to try and take over the area?”
The route of the proposed eruv, which will see the erection of 95 steel poles attached by a wire, encompasses roads in Altrincham, Timperley, Hale and Hale Barns, as well as sites on Green Belt land, the South Hale Conservation Area and the Hale Station Conservation Area.
Mr Guterman continued: “I grew up in Hale when there wasn’t a synagogue and there was a great community spirit between all types of people.
“It is wrong for these people who preach a message of religious peace to appear to not care about their neighbours.
“They are pulling apart all of the interfaith work that my father, who created countless interfaith groups, and many others, have done over many years to bring everyone together.
“It is fair to say that 90 per cent of the Jewish people that I have spoken to are against this, but they are afraid to lift their heads above the parapet.
“It was stated at the public meeting by the rabbi that it would only affect between 10-20 families, at best. I call upon the funders to show us who they are and listen to what is being said by the vocal majority.”
Mr Guterman continued: “I am convinced that this will pass the planning stages, initially or by appeal, but the damage it will do is being ignored by the funders who are ploughing on regardless.
“The petition which was taken down had been taken over by antisemites — which the eruv committee were warned about.
“Building a synagogue, mosque or church on your own land is fine — but when you encroach on your neighbours who don’t want it then problems will occur.”

UPDATE 13th September 2016

"In the interests of communal unity, the trustees of the Hale Eruv Project have, after careful consideration, decided not to proceed with their current planning application."

The CURRENT planning application has now been withdrawn 


Do you need to contact us? CLICK HERE

As we prepare for a planning application for an Eruv this page will try and keep you up to date with news and information.
Have you subscribed to our mailing list?  If not do so at the top of this page. 

Please do become a member of this web site, and we have a Eruv thread going on the forum that you will find here, if you comment on the Eruv Thread you will automatically get notification as new messages are added, please CLICK THIS LINK 

A item has come up on the JC and you can read it BY CLICKING THIS LINK

You have until the 8th September to send in objections.


Write to Cormac McGowan
Senior Planner
Trafford Council
Planning and Development
Trafford Town Hall,
Talbot Road, Stretford M32 0TH,


We are aware that you are not now able to comment on the Trafford Planning Portal and here is a message from planning "Our IT section are looking to rectify the message details on the web-site – representations can still be sent to development.management@trafford.gov.uk "
If you do email in, make sure that you quote PLANNING APPLICATION NUMBER 88955/FUL/16

Please also write to your local Councillor.

You need to provide reasonable reasons why this planning application must be refused.
 Some Examples.
The size and scale of the application (out of character with the local area)
Extra (Private, non-council or utility) street clutter
Effect on community cohesion
The poles and wires will alter the visible street scene.
The visual impact will be seen by multiple properties.
The close proximity to houses and other properties will have a visual impact.

Bats can not detect the wires and they are a protected species. 

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Trafford planning details -  Please follow THIS LINK 

As well as writing to the planning department with your objections, let your MP and the Hale Central and Hale Barns Ward Councillors know your feelings. Here are email details;
Please copy the email details.

Graham Brady MP ( Altrincham and Sale West) altsale@parliament.uk
Councillor Dylan Butt (Hale Barns) – dylan.butt@trafford.gov.uk
Councillor Denise Haddad (Hale Central) – denise.haddad@trafford.gov.uk
Councillor Alan Mitchell (Hale Central) – alan.mitchell@trafford.gov.uk
Councillor Patrick Myers (Hale Barns)– patrick.myers@trafford.gov.uk
Councillor Bernard Sharp (Hale Barns)-  bernard.sharp@trafford.gov.uk
Councillor Patricia Young (Hale Central) – patricia.young@trafford.gov.uk

MORE detailed files are now available on the planning portal, view then NOW CLICK HERE 

The BBC are now running the proposed Eruv as a story, if you would like to read CLICK HERE

Hale Eruv would risk “rancour and intolerance” if it goes ahead, says MP Brady to read about this FOLLOW THIS LINK - CLICK HERE


ERUV PLAN ‘DAMAGING INTERFAITH RELATIONS’ This is well worth a read Eruv plandamaging interfaith relations

BBC Northwest Tonight 19th August 2016

BBC Radio4 broadcast 21st August 2016 on the "Sunday" show. The proposed Hale Eruv was an item. To listen please CLICK ON THIS LINK

What Rabbi Portnoy said in 2014 and what he says now!


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The inaugural meeting of an action group which will oppose the proposed creation of a religious boundary in a large area of Hale and Hale Barns took place on Tuesday evening. The meeting was a low-key strategy meeting but it brought together representatives from the Jewish, Muslim, Christian and Humanist communities. 

The group is to be called “South Trafford against the Eruv” or STATE for short. 

The Eruv scheme is the reincarnation of a proposal by a small section of the Jewish Community led by Rabbi Portnoy, from Hale Synagogue. It is estimated that less than 12 families will benefit from this development. The majority of the Jewish community in the area are opposed to this proposal as they prefer to live peacefully in our diverse community. This proposal has the potential to seriously damage social cohesion, in times when religious privilege could lead to hatred and factionalism within the community. 

The proposed area has a boundary of about 13-miles and will be made up of tall posts and wires together with existing natural boundaries/perimiters. It includes Hale Village south of the railway, and most of Hale and Hale Barns and some of Altrincham. 

In November 2014 there was a public meeting called by Rabbi Portnoy, which was attended by more than 300 people. The majority present were opposed to the eruv. Yet despite promises to reconsider and keep residents informed, plans for the eruv are to be submitted imminently to Trafford Planning Committee, with no prior warning. Consultation has been very limited and appears to have been primarily with other faith leaders. 

There is significant opposition to this scheme from within the Hale Synagogue community and also neighbouring Bowdon Synagogue, who have officially distanced themselves from the project. 

If you want more information or can offer help and support to STATE there are details at thewellgreen.org.uk 


Or Contact
Neil Taylor on 07825 077204


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